RVSC 1705         
Date: 10/31/2008 Location: McAllen, TX   Map Show McAllen on a rail map Views: 542 Collection Of:   Mike Murray
Locomotives: RVSC 1705(GP16)    Author:  Mike Murray
RVSC 1705
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Jim Bruce General Unit is a GP11. 11/9/2008 9:50:57 AM
William Grimes General Mike, you were right the first time, this is the CRR version of the GP16, the GP11 has some different features. 11/13/2008 6:41:02 PM
Jim Bruce General Unit IS a GP11.This Clinchfield GP11 rebuild was one outsourced to the ICG/PNC shop at Paducah, KY and is an Illinois Central Gulf Paducah Shops rebuild. ICG designated these as GP11 locomotives. ICG Paducah-rebuilt GP11 locomotives were numbered in the 8700-series. Clinchfield Railroad also had 6 of these GP11 locomotives. These were also built by ICG-Paducah, and are betrayed by the shortened nose (to accomodate a new electrical cabinet behind the cab,) spartan cab and the primary air filtration system, which is mounted atop the hood behind the forward radiator section. The GP16 is a product of Seaboard System and Family Lines' own Geep rebuild progam, with units dubbed Uceta Geeps, because of the shop that did the work, followed, and these encompassed core units from most of the Family Lines component roads. 11/24/2008 12:42:33 PM
Thomas Rousseau General Jim, you can call this a GP11 all you want. Although you are correct that CRR/SCL outsourced these loco for rebuilt by PNC/ICG Paducah, the fact remains that as they were being built for SCL, the official SCL designation was a GP16. It may have be built to GP11 specs, it's still a GP16. Shop records and inspection cards for all PNC/ICG rebuilds for CRR/SCL will prove that. SCL's Uceta shops used much of the ICG sprcs in determining their own GP16 program. 6/10/2012 10:01:18 PM

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